Sit back and get comfortable cause .. Well .. This is gonna be a long one.. As you can see from my lack of posting I have been building trying to find the right words to say all the right things to all the right people and its about to start now.. And hopefully .. This will be the last ever .. Defend myself .. People are assholes blog post.. I know you will miss that Wendy .. Cause you know I was good for one about every three weeks to a month or so ..
SO.. Here I go .. I have a lot to cover.. And the first issue is going to be pointed to Vicki and Kathy .. You two fuck wits.. I am NOT a hacker.. I dont know how you even hatched this crazy conspiracy theory .. .. If you knew the slightest thing about me .. Which you had a chance to get to know me but were too busy talking about your car accident for the ten thousandth time to pay attention.. You would know I cant even change my blog template with out help .. Kari and Lori can both attest to that fact.. Furthermore.. If in fact I were a hacker I would have far more important things to do than sit around Crochetville trying to hack into chat and spy on your little mundane conversations that would have bored me to tears anyway .. Speaking of Crochetville chat.. I havent been able to even access it since BEFORE Thanksgiving.. Had either of you bothered to asked you would have known all these things.. But you didnt.. you wanted to go around spreading vicious rumours about me.. Thanks girls! I appreciate it.. You neednt worry .. You can go use chat any time you want and say anything you want .. I am no longer welcome nor am I a member there .. So.. You got your wish.. There wont be some sappy farewell post either this is it ! .. I dont need ppl who don’t really care about begging me to stay at a place that doesnt appreciate a thing you do and think you are some sort of one woman posse..
Which brings me to Valerie/Shelain.. And lets not forget Kat.. All the same person.. If you didnt know this by now you have lived under a rock .. In Crochetville anyway .. Apparently this person found herself in a situation dire enough to fake her own death.. And many people were very upset about it .. So .. I went out and looked into things.. Even made an announcement on the board I was going to do as such.. Had ANY ONE had a problem with that .. They could have spoken up and said so .. A quick email asking me to please let them know what I found and they would handle it would have sufficed.. I didnt get such an email.. And I did wait to break what news I knew.. There was a span of about 16 hours in which some one could have said something to me.. Yet they didnt.. sooo I broke the news they were the same .. That there had not been a tragic accident .. And Valerie wasnt dead.. And what do I get in return.. a lot of talking behind my back saying I shouldnt have told the truth.. That I should have waited and let the mods and admins do it.. I ask you this .. How many more people needed to shed tears over this person ? How many more people needed to be duped ? How many more people needed to send something to her family ? Before it was going to be told ? I dont sugar coat.. I was to the point .. That is who I am .. But I was not overly harsh either.. The thing about this that outrages me most.. The simple fact NO ONE said a word to me .. didnt know my motive or even why I did it .. But I was subjected to being torn apart behind the scenes of Crochetville.. And when Kari stood up for me and left.. Because she couldnt believe more was being made that I scooped the info than this person duping the whole board.. And didnt want to be party to any more of the craziness there… nothing was said.. Til the eve of the start date of the auction.. There had been plenty of time to approach me.. Say something to me .. And Goldi.. Yeah I am talking to you in the open which is more than I can say for you …. I will say this once .. Then you can be assured I will never think of you again .. And read it carefully .. THERE IS NEVER ANY THING WRONG WITH TELLING THE TRUTH.. And if you think there is .. You arent the person you profess to be.. If you had such a problem with me.. You should have come to me and not talked me down behind my back .. PERIOD … because last I checked that would have been the adult thing to do .. And Donna.. I want to thank you for trying to guilt me into staying in a place that I am no longer welcome to run an auction to raise funds for a place I am no longer welcome because … well .. It would just be easier.. Sure it would be for you .. But not me.. I refuse to go to any lengths for some place where I know how you feel about me and where I am not longer welcome.. I would have to be smoking crack to agree to stay and run your auction and make money to run your board after every thing that has happened to me.. I will not allow my self to be used like that.. I value myself more than that .. Surely you at least know that much about me .. I expected more from you ..of all the people on that board I expected you to at least be fair and ask me about the incident before jumping on the Goldi bandwagon.. Her one woman posse or would that be lynch mob?
Which brings me to the next point.. And dare I say it DRAMA that fills that board.. There would be much less if Mel with 2 nns were called out on her lies.. If Donnalynn didnt post five million mundane useless posts a day spreading her obvious discontent.. If all the morons that just keep posting the same thing day after day with out bothering to do a search ..If Vicki didnt post the same fucking shawl in 12 colours eash in their own thread and ask every one what they think of it every time she finishes one ..if all the rules were enforced they way they should be .. Across the board and with a swift hand.. If some of these things were nipped in the bud.. And if we were allowed personalities.. You have to become a Stepford to fit there any more.. No one is allowed opinion.. Or if you do have one you are randomly censored for no apparent good reason except Goldi didnt like what you said so she takes it upon herself to remove your thread or comment.. Like the Gestapo.. And none of this would really bother me if the favouritism wasnt blatant.. Or and here is the kicker.. You ALL didnt think the exact same thing I am saying.. But were too afraid to say so .. You cant believe how many times I have posted something only to get 25 PMs telling me thanks for saying what they were thinking .. Because they were too afraid to .. Or .. I support you in what you say even if I cant bring myself to say so in public..
I have said this many times on my blog.. I dont believe in censorhip.. And in a place where we are all supposed to be adults there shouldnt have to be any .. Not once in all my 4000 plus posts at Crochetville did I ever ask any one to agree with me .. I stated opinion and left it at that .. Or said what I thought I needed to say .. I didnt try to start drama it just seemed there was always at least one person waiting around to pick apart and analyze every thing I ever said.. Or of course take it personal.. And unless I call you out by name .. Its not personal.. Period ..
I will say I am certain there will be people that are happy to see me take my leave .. To them good riddance too .. To the people I leave sad and/or disappointed because it looks as though I have abandoned a project I in fact created and took on .. Well I apologize as well .. Those of you who really care and know the exact reasons I am going are really the only people whos opinions matter to me anyway .. This isnt how I wanted to go out.. But looks as though this is the hand I was given .. So this is the way it is .. So .. I have asked to be deleted out of the database.. Yesterday .. And havent and wont be back .. I hope every one comes and reads what I had to say .. So they can know the truth and not some manufactured excuse as to why the auction didnt happen and why I am not there any more .. and as per usual .. I am open to comments as long as you say who you are .. and will address them accordingly as well ..
SO.. Here I go .. I have a lot to cover.. And the first issue is going to be pointed to Vicki and Kathy .. You two fuck wits.. I am NOT a hacker.. I dont know how you even hatched this crazy conspiracy theory .. .. If you knew the slightest thing about me .. Which you had a chance to get to know me but were too busy talking about your car accident for the ten thousandth time to pay attention.. You would know I cant even change my blog template with out help .. Kari and Lori can both attest to that fact.. Furthermore.. If in fact I were a hacker I would have far more important things to do than sit around Crochetville trying to hack into chat and spy on your little mundane conversations that would have bored me to tears anyway .. Speaking of Crochetville chat.. I havent been able to even access it since BEFORE Thanksgiving.. Had either of you bothered to asked you would have known all these things.. But you didnt.. you wanted to go around spreading vicious rumours about me.. Thanks girls! I appreciate it.. You neednt worry .. You can go use chat any time you want and say anything you want .. I am no longer welcome nor am I a member there .. So.. You got your wish.. There wont be some sappy farewell post either this is it ! .. I dont need ppl who don’t really care about begging me to stay at a place that doesnt appreciate a thing you do and think you are some sort of one woman posse..
Which brings me to Valerie/Shelain.. And lets not forget Kat.. All the same person.. If you didnt know this by now you have lived under a rock .. In Crochetville anyway .. Apparently this person found herself in a situation dire enough to fake her own death.. And many people were very upset about it .. So .. I went out and looked into things.. Even made an announcement on the board I was going to do as such.. Had ANY ONE had a problem with that .. They could have spoken up and said so .. A quick email asking me to please let them know what I found and they would handle it would have sufficed.. I didnt get such an email.. And I did wait to break what news I knew.. There was a span of about 16 hours in which some one could have said something to me.. Yet they didnt.. sooo I broke the news they were the same .. That there had not been a tragic accident .. And Valerie wasnt dead.. And what do I get in return.. a lot of talking behind my back saying I shouldnt have told the truth.. That I should have waited and let the mods and admins do it.. I ask you this .. How many more people needed to shed tears over this person ? How many more people needed to be duped ? How many more people needed to send something to her family ? Before it was going to be told ? I dont sugar coat.. I was to the point .. That is who I am .. But I was not overly harsh either.. The thing about this that outrages me most.. The simple fact NO ONE said a word to me .. didnt know my motive or even why I did it .. But I was subjected to being torn apart behind the scenes of Crochetville.. And when Kari stood up for me and left.. Because she couldnt believe more was being made that I scooped the info than this person duping the whole board.. And didnt want to be party to any more of the craziness there… nothing was said.. Til the eve of the start date of the auction.. There had been plenty of time to approach me.. Say something to me .. And Goldi.. Yeah I am talking to you in the open which is more than I can say for you …. I will say this once .. Then you can be assured I will never think of you again .. And read it carefully .. THERE IS NEVER ANY THING WRONG WITH TELLING THE TRUTH.. And if you think there is .. You arent the person you profess to be.. If you had such a problem with me.. You should have come to me and not talked me down behind my back .. PERIOD … because last I checked that would have been the adult thing to do .. And Donna.. I want to thank you for trying to guilt me into staying in a place that I am no longer welcome to run an auction to raise funds for a place I am no longer welcome because … well .. It would just be easier.. Sure it would be for you .. But not me.. I refuse to go to any lengths for some place where I know how you feel about me and where I am not longer welcome.. I would have to be smoking crack to agree to stay and run your auction and make money to run your board after every thing that has happened to me.. I will not allow my self to be used like that.. I value myself more than that .. Surely you at least know that much about me .. I expected more from you ..of all the people on that board I expected you to at least be fair and ask me about the incident before jumping on the Goldi bandwagon.. Her one woman posse or would that be lynch mob?
Which brings me to the next point.. And dare I say it DRAMA that fills that board.. There would be much less if Mel with 2 nns were called out on her lies.. If Donnalynn didnt post five million mundane useless posts a day spreading her obvious discontent.. If all the morons that just keep posting the same thing day after day with out bothering to do a search ..If Vicki didnt post the same fucking shawl in 12 colours eash in their own thread and ask every one what they think of it every time she finishes one ..if all the rules were enforced they way they should be .. Across the board and with a swift hand.. If some of these things were nipped in the bud.. And if we were allowed personalities.. You have to become a Stepford to fit there any more.. No one is allowed opinion.. Or if you do have one you are randomly censored for no apparent good reason except Goldi didnt like what you said so she takes it upon herself to remove your thread or comment.. Like the Gestapo.. And none of this would really bother me if the favouritism wasnt blatant.. Or and here is the kicker.. You ALL didnt think the exact same thing I am saying.. But were too afraid to say so .. You cant believe how many times I have posted something only to get 25 PMs telling me thanks for saying what they were thinking .. Because they were too afraid to .. Or .. I support you in what you say even if I cant bring myself to say so in public..
I have said this many times on my blog.. I dont believe in censorhip.. And in a place where we are all supposed to be adults there shouldnt have to be any .. Not once in all my 4000 plus posts at Crochetville did I ever ask any one to agree with me .. I stated opinion and left it at that .. Or said what I thought I needed to say .. I didnt try to start drama it just seemed there was always at least one person waiting around to pick apart and analyze every thing I ever said.. Or of course take it personal.. And unless I call you out by name .. Its not personal.. Period ..
I will say I am certain there will be people that are happy to see me take my leave .. To them good riddance too .. To the people I leave sad and/or disappointed because it looks as though I have abandoned a project I in fact created and took on .. Well I apologize as well .. Those of you who really care and know the exact reasons I am going are really the only people whos opinions matter to me anyway .. This isnt how I wanted to go out.. But looks as though this is the hand I was given .. So this is the way it is .. So .. I have asked to be deleted out of the database.. Yesterday .. And havent and wont be back .. I hope every one comes and reads what I had to say .. So they can know the truth and not some manufactured excuse as to why the auction didnt happen and why I am not there any more .. and as per usual .. I am open to comments as long as you say who you are .. and will address them accordingly as well ..
26 Comments:
At 8:06 PM,
Unknown said…
Bravo! Bravo!
You said it all!
I will say this...had I known then what I know NOW I would have blasted with both barrells fully loaded and kept firing cuz this is just so much bullshit.
At 8:20 PM,
Karen said…
Beth, I'm sorry that this has happened to you. I hate when things get ugly on these boards because you don't really know the person behind the words. I hope you can get past all this and not let it get you down.
At 8:41 PM,
hi, i'm natalie said…
Yay, Elizabeth!!
Thank you for always being truthful... That's a disappearing trait.
As I said before, it's a loss for them.
At 8:47 PM,
Deneen said…
Giggle-giggle
Oh Beth, how dare you have an opinion that should differ from everyone elses. How dare you post your thoughts on your own blog. How dare you say anything that's not sweet, cloying, fake or phony. Last I checked, we lived in a democracy, not a communist country were everything you read and write is scrutinized.
I am sorry things ended this way. At one time it was a nice place, where I met all of you, but that was many months ago and things change-time to move on and not look back.
At 9:06 PM,
Amy said…
Wow, I haven't been to the Ville in a while and look what happens when I'm not there, spontaneous (or not) combustion. I may just go to check out what the hell has been going on.
I've been much to busy trying to sell my house to spend all my time on the computer.
I'm sorry it had to end this way for you. Now if I would just get an email from Kari *hint hint* (or maybe I need to email you, oops), I'll be on the new board. Part of the reason I haven't been at the Ville is that I was getting bored with it. Sure I like my ego stroked from time to time with my finished projects, and I like to see some designs that people come up with, but I also want to be myself.
I want to be able to curse if I feel like it and speak my mind if I feel like it without fear of retribution. There is a difference between being honest and being nasty, some people just don't know how to tell the difference.
I for one appreciate your candor and your "attitude". It keeps things real and fresh.
At 9:28 PM,
Trish said…
How does it feel to finally get it off your chest :) That's what blog are for and I hope everyone makes it to your blog to read the truth. So sorry it all had to end this way but everything happens for a reason, right?
You still have your blog and look forward to reading many many posts from you.
At 10:06 PM,
Amy said…
Ahh, I still feel like I don't know all the of story, but quite frankly, with the drama at the 'Ville, I don't think I'd get the whole truth anyway.
I'm just glad you stayed true to yourself and didn't sell out. That's not the Beth I know.
At 10:11 PM,
Shar said…
Hurray for you!! Did I say I am proud? Oh and by the way, I am proud. And in case I forget to tell you, I am PROUD! Love ya!
At 10:31 PM,
Mimi said…
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At 10:38 PM,
Pink said…
It's un-effin'-believable! You found out the truth and you got in the shit for sharing what you found...that stinks! Especially when so many others suspected something fishy about the whole Val/Kat/kids/hubby situation. I'm not so sure I want to spend too much time there now...but I do still want to make your socks for your lil'tootsie when they go big-walkies!!
At 10:40 PM,
StitchLuva and Yarn said…
as i said on the 'woods i am sorry to see you go. your honesty and humor and not to mention crochet talent are one of the reasons it got involved in the 'ville. as a novice crocheter i really enjoyed seeing your finished projects and you have given my some very valuable tips on project/time management and organization. this is a big loss to those of us that want more than toilet paper cozies from the forum. i think if they just keep allowing everyone to just post numerous threads of the same scarf, poncho and cozy; and use the forum as there own personal blog with nothing of much interest to say they are going to lose the people who have something to contribute because who has time to sift through so much crap.
like natalie said, it is their loss. you go girl and go proud.
At 12:17 AM,
Azathoth100 said…
Ah Martinis all around! Sorry that you had to leave there, but glad your here and that we all get to enjoy you and your thoughts. So a toast to the truth, and another to you, and a third just for the hell of it. If nothing else you'll always know that on here you'll always be apreciated. And also always have a drinking partner.
At 1:04 AM,
Mimi said…
Beth, I've only known you by what you write in your blog and in your posts at the board and I really like your strong personality. Now, with all that has happened, I'm really sad to know that my favorite board will no longer be. I agree mostly with what you said. You are so true to yourself and that is why you've had a lot of friends (unfortunately, some foes as well). I just want to say I understand you and I pray this could still be worked out.
(Sorry I posted again, coz I edited it - didnt want to mention the board)
At 10:14 AM,
Hunny said…
I haven't really been reading what is going on over there, I do pick up bits and pieces of it from blogs. I am sorry to hear that you have left. Sometimes people just don't want to hear the truth and they take it as you are nasty,etc. I always found you to be helpful and I like people who tell you things like it is. There is never a need to sugar coat anything. I see that a lot of the people who belonged when the board was still a .com and not an .org are going to be leaving. There is just to much going on and it getting harder and harder to look for the good stuff that you actually want to read about. I will miss your posts. But I still have your blog to read. Since I choose not to look into all the drama I can't say if you are right or wrong but it doesnt matter if you stick by what you believe. That is what its all about backing up what you think is right.
At 11:05 AM,
Calisews said…
Beth,
I don't know the whole story, honestly don't really want to. I did just want to stop in a say thank you for an entertaining moment. I always appreciate a person that speaks their mind, truthfully, no matter what. You do that. I am a mousey type that sits and watchs the world go by. On my own blog, I was always worried about what someone would think if I actually spoke on a subject. But, that has begun to change. LOL
You go, stay honest, and force those around you to see the reality of their little world as well, at least the part that includes you.
Dianna
At 12:07 PM,
Burfica said…
I of course didn't belong to that place, but I will jump in and ask Aza to share the martini's with me too. hehehehe I'll be another drinking buddy.
At 12:39 PM,
LG said…
Hi Beth, I know you by your posts at CV. It's sad to know that because of that fight you are leaving... I don't know the whole story, but is it so serious that you have to go? I really hope you'll come back! This is not an office, where you must see everybodys faces everyday. At CV you can simply ignore the people that bothers you or that hurt you with that chat. Don't you want to come back? Think it over...
At 2:22 PM,
Joy said…
I'm really disappointed in the people who run CVille. Makes me feel like they totally slapped their long time supporters right in the face.
I have no idea how to delete my account there, so I'm just going to stay away. The people I want to keep in contact with are the ones I know how to find. Like you! ;)
At 8:45 PM,
Anna said…
Beth,
My favorite thing about you is that you speak your mind. I'm glad you stood up for what you believed in. I hopped on over there recently to see what's been going on. I still don't know the whole of it, nor will I ever. But, I do want you to know that I think you're an awesome lady!
At 7:44 AM,
Jennifer said…
Huh, I haven't been reading CV for quite a while. I even deleted my blog. I just don't have time to keep up. I found out about all of this when I decided to find out the status of the "traveling hook". I was somewhere near the bottom of the list, but I checked my mailbox every day to make sure I didn't miss it. So, I decided to check up on progress and wow! Things that happen when I'm not looking. It is certainly to bad things had to go down like that. I echo all previous sentiments. And if you are ever in Michigan send me a line. We can go to 336 Main (a great Martini Bar) for a drink.
JC
At 10:36 AM,
DixieRedHead said…
I usually don't involve myself in drama but the Shelain thing got to me, only because I live so close to her "location". I didn't realize alot of the behind the scenes drama that was occuring. I do NOT see how telling the truth can be WRONG in anyones eyes. I applaud you for standing up for urself and not being a welcome mat. Somethings have definately gotten out of hand on the forum. I hate to see you leave, but understand your reasons. I wish you all the best. I hope some can read this and the same mistakes will not be made again. Take Care & Keep Bloggin'.
At 6:32 PM,
Shell said…
I'm sorry to see you leave C'ville Elizabeth. You don't know me, & I haven't always agreed with your posting style but you're an honest person & I admire that. You are a colorful person & full of life also. You posted the truth that you found out & that was a good thing. Yes it's dramatic, which the admin doesn't approve of, which is probably why they were so upset...BUT it was information that was needed because of people being so upset about a death in the C'ville family which was the ultimate drama! You probably stopped a lot of charity items being mailed out to a fraud that would just sell them or not appreciate their emotional value because of her non-existing ethics. I wish you will reconsider but I understand your reasons per your blog post about it. I am disappointed for the auction participants & travelling hook participants as well & it's a shame that all of this happened the way that it did. But your posting about Valerie was the right thing to do! Never doubt that. I will miss you as I know many people will. I tried to join Kari's board but for some reason I was denied membership. I guess it is for her close friends only. Oh well...I saw the invitation to join on your blog & thought I'd give a try.
At 1:08 AM,
Mary said…
Hey Beth well I for one will miss you greatly. I haven't been posting much on crochetville just reading and looking at a few posts so didn't realize what was going on. I knew that there was some tensions almost could feel it but didn't know until I decided to check out your blog. I have always loved your frankness and even though you won't be on Crochetville anymore I know I can get my Beth fix with just a click on my bookmark for your blog. Just wanted you to know that I understand why your leaving but that I will stay in touch thru your blog. Keep up the good work. You rock.
At 4:29 PM,
Carol said…
Elizabeth,
We have never formally met at Crochetville and I didn't see the Valerie drama going on (I guess I was under that rock)but I'm sure sorry that all this has happened to you and the others that were involved. I'm glad to know that you did inform everyone I sure would have been upset if I had of sent something out to a family I believed to be grieving and found out they weren't. I appreciate your forwardness, I am the same way but am called rude most of the time. In my line of business I have to be straight forward or get run over so I do understand.
I have joined DoD and hope to make new friends on there.
Carol L.
At 8:08 PM,
Kellycat said…
I REALLY just found out about this mess by reading other's blogs about the situation. I sort of just peaced shit together. If someone tried to get attention in the cruelest way possible by faking their death, then I think you were informative to let everyone know what was going on. Kudos to you!
I myself posted something a while back concerning donated baby items being sold on ebay, and got alot of hate mail, as well as a few nasty posts in return. I was only trying to be helpful. I learned the quick way not to be so helpful.
If you are in another group now, as well as dear Kari I will look out for it. I'm not out for the fluff or dramatics, just a good time without censorship.
At 9:26 PM,
Rebecca said…
oh man! what madness! i've been away from the ville for quite a while, it just got too big with too much going on... i couldn't keep up and now i'm glad of it.
i'm so sorry it all went sour. i love to read your blog. plan on me sticking around for a while :D
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