ok so you know i just went off on people for not getting to know me before you know like judge me .. and look at just what came thru.. and for this.. there will be no more anonymous comments because if you dont have the balls to claim what you say .. i dont have the time to read it .. serious.. most of the people who's comments matter arent afriad to say what they want and claim it.. and i am proud to have friends like that ..
so here is the beaut.. its great..
"Perhaps a look at your Johari Window would clue you in as to WHY people percieve you a certain way..notice the conspicuous absence of words like warm,friendly,patient and cheerful. "
oh but dear anonymous one.. there is a WARM.. on my window.. and other nice words like loving.. caring and kind.. giving and helpful.. and the thing is.. you only get to pick 5 or 6 words to describe so i am sure my dear readers and friends picked the things that come first in their minds.. i am not insulted.. i was rather touched to see what most of my friends had to say .. and of course there are those such as yourself .. too chickenshit to claim their words..
futhermore.. people may perceive me as they wish .. but dont start to claim to KNOW what i will or will not say or do when you havent taken a single minute to get to know me or why i am the way i am .. just like you .. who .. chooses to hide in the anonymity of your comment.. oh i dont believe in censorship.. i am gonna let that comment stay .. but what i DO believe is owning your actions and words.. which i do .. i make no apologies for how i am .. i know me.. i like me.. if some one else happens to like me thats great.. and if they dont.. then that is ok too .. because sooner or later some one will come along and appreciate me for me .. and not try to change me or drag me down or dampen my spirit..
now.. on to other subjects.. since i already hit on censorship.. i think its wrong and terrible.. i do not believe in it.. i do not believe that one should make statements about art or creating that say something "shouldnt" be made because it "might" be offensive or it in fact offends them.. it always cracks me up for some one to say let the creative juices flow and do what you want.. with the underlying " as long as its with in what we as a majority find acceptable".... total and complete bullshit..and its WRONG.. because who is to say what you do doesnt offend some one else .. there was a thread on a board i frequent asking for patterns for roadkill.. that is all .. asking for a pattern .. and in the interim of waiting to see if some one had said pattern.. there were several "editorial" type entries made telling her how wrong and offensive crocheting something like that is.. well the way i see it.. if that is what she wants to crochet more power to her .. she doesnt need permission from a bunch of uptight people that claim roadkill is offensive and some of it could even be pets and it might hurt some ones feelings.. whatever.. all i can say to that is if you are so irresponsible with your animals that they become roadkill.. they werent very dear to you from the go.. i am not even gonna go down that road.. cause i have alot more to say .. (imagine that )
I also find this phenomenon quite amazing.. some one asked for opinions (yes that is right opinions .. and as we all know they are like ass holes .. every one has one..and sometimes they stink).. i weighed in with my opinion and basically got the shit kicked out of me verbally for voicing it.. the person that did so .. admitted "waiting" for my reply so she could light into me .. the point of the thread was to state your opinion.. no where in the thread did i ask a SINGLE person to agree with what i thought.. my answer was thought out and my words were well chosen.. and in that i got called haughty.. and the person that lit into me claimed she KNEW exactly what the tone of my reply would be .. and then went on to shorten my name to one i cant stand being called with out knowing me i think that is RUDE.. and also went on to try to "explain" what i meant by what i said .. .as if i couldnt do it myself if questions came up.. she also planted seeds that neednt be planted.. i dont think one person would have taken what i said badly had she not lit in and tried to make what i said sinister.. which it was not .. then in conclusion.. after waiting for me to reply so she could try to rip on me.. she said she wasnt being confrontational.. right.. what a big bag of bullshit and i am not buying it.. soooo that all being said.. i go to defend myself.. and she pulls out this line .. "You just pass judgment on work you have not seen".....wait a minute.. i thought this thread was about something else firstly .. and secondly where the fuck did that come from .. umm i cant pass judgement on anything i havent seen and most times dont on things i have .. whatever.. so here is the deal.. and why i am upset
the person that took it upon herself to try to flame me.. has not taken one second of her time to get to know me .. she reads threads.. she knows what i have to say on many subjects but she does NOT know me by any means of the defintion.. i am opinionated.. i will give my opinion WHEN ASKED.. i dont offer up unsolicited advice and i certainly dont watch threads just so i can tear up some one else's opinion.. but the very best part of this whole saga... and i do mean the best.. i had people agree with me and *gasp* defend me .. and there were people upset about THAT.. so i guess i should just sit there and take all the shit dished to me .. and eat it nicely with a fork and knife and that would make every thing just fine.. well i have news.. its NEVER GONNA HAPPEN....
I dont know why i let these fuck wits get to me but i do some days.. especially days like yesterday .. because she made it personal.. and it never was even meant to be like that.. so call it what you will.. i may be "insensitve" by saying what i mean .. and meaning what i say .. but i will tell you this.. i DO mean what i say .. and i dont pussy foot around and waiver.. and i DO stand by what i say .. and i have enough back bone to stand up for what i believe .. and to take responsibility for my actions and my words..
so in conclusion.. those of you who do not have blogger accounts and want to comment on my post.. you can email me ..because if i can take responsibility for what i say .. all you anonymous shit stirrers can too ..
so here is the beaut.. its great..
"Perhaps a look at your Johari Window would clue you in as to WHY people percieve you a certain way..notice the conspicuous absence of words like warm,friendly,patient and cheerful. "
oh but dear anonymous one.. there is a WARM.. on my window.. and other nice words like loving.. caring and kind.. giving and helpful.. and the thing is.. you only get to pick 5 or 6 words to describe so i am sure my dear readers and friends picked the things that come first in their minds.. i am not insulted.. i was rather touched to see what most of my friends had to say .. and of course there are those such as yourself .. too chickenshit to claim their words..
futhermore.. people may perceive me as they wish .. but dont start to claim to KNOW what i will or will not say or do when you havent taken a single minute to get to know me or why i am the way i am .. just like you .. who .. chooses to hide in the anonymity of your comment.. oh i dont believe in censorship.. i am gonna let that comment stay .. but what i DO believe is owning your actions and words.. which i do .. i make no apologies for how i am .. i know me.. i like me.. if some one else happens to like me thats great.. and if they dont.. then that is ok too .. because sooner or later some one will come along and appreciate me for me .. and not try to change me or drag me down or dampen my spirit..
now.. on to other subjects.. since i already hit on censorship.. i think its wrong and terrible.. i do not believe in it.. i do not believe that one should make statements about art or creating that say something "shouldnt" be made because it "might" be offensive or it in fact offends them.. it always cracks me up for some one to say let the creative juices flow and do what you want.. with the underlying " as long as its with in what we as a majority find acceptable".... total and complete bullshit..and its WRONG.. because who is to say what you do doesnt offend some one else .. there was a thread on a board i frequent asking for patterns for roadkill.. that is all .. asking for a pattern .. and in the interim of waiting to see if some one had said pattern.. there were several "editorial" type entries made telling her how wrong and offensive crocheting something like that is.. well the way i see it.. if that is what she wants to crochet more power to her .. she doesnt need permission from a bunch of uptight people that claim roadkill is offensive and some of it could even be pets and it might hurt some ones feelings.. whatever.. all i can say to that is if you are so irresponsible with your animals that they become roadkill.. they werent very dear to you from the go.. i am not even gonna go down that road.. cause i have alot more to say .. (imagine that )
I also find this phenomenon quite amazing.. some one asked for opinions (yes that is right opinions .. and as we all know they are like ass holes .. every one has one..and sometimes they stink).. i weighed in with my opinion and basically got the shit kicked out of me verbally for voicing it.. the person that did so .. admitted "waiting" for my reply so she could light into me .. the point of the thread was to state your opinion.. no where in the thread did i ask a SINGLE person to agree with what i thought.. my answer was thought out and my words were well chosen.. and in that i got called haughty.. and the person that lit into me claimed she KNEW exactly what the tone of my reply would be .. and then went on to shorten my name to one i cant stand being called with out knowing me i think that is RUDE.. and also went on to try to "explain" what i meant by what i said .. .as if i couldnt do it myself if questions came up.. she also planted seeds that neednt be planted.. i dont think one person would have taken what i said badly had she not lit in and tried to make what i said sinister.. which it was not .. then in conclusion.. after waiting for me to reply so she could try to rip on me.. she said she wasnt being confrontational.. right.. what a big bag of bullshit and i am not buying it.. soooo that all being said.. i go to defend myself.. and she pulls out this line .. "You just pass judgment on work you have not seen".....wait a minute.. i thought this thread was about something else firstly .. and secondly where the fuck did that come from .. umm i cant pass judgement on anything i havent seen and most times dont on things i have .. whatever.. so here is the deal.. and why i am upset
the person that took it upon herself to try to flame me.. has not taken one second of her time to get to know me .. she reads threads.. she knows what i have to say on many subjects but she does NOT know me by any means of the defintion.. i am opinionated.. i will give my opinion WHEN ASKED.. i dont offer up unsolicited advice and i certainly dont watch threads just so i can tear up some one else's opinion.. but the very best part of this whole saga... and i do mean the best.. i had people agree with me and *gasp* defend me .. and there were people upset about THAT.. so i guess i should just sit there and take all the shit dished to me .. and eat it nicely with a fork and knife and that would make every thing just fine.. well i have news.. its NEVER GONNA HAPPEN....
I dont know why i let these fuck wits get to me but i do some days.. especially days like yesterday .. because she made it personal.. and it never was even meant to be like that.. so call it what you will.. i may be "insensitve" by saying what i mean .. and meaning what i say .. but i will tell you this.. i DO mean what i say .. and i dont pussy foot around and waiver.. and i DO stand by what i say .. and i have enough back bone to stand up for what i believe .. and to take responsibility for my actions and my words..
so in conclusion.. those of you who do not have blogger accounts and want to comment on my post.. you can email me ..because if i can take responsibility for what i say .. all you anonymous shit stirrers can too ..
16 Comments:
At 8:04 PM, Unknown said…
*claps and cheers*
WOOHOO!
At 8:45 PM, none said…
It isn't more than a month and you have to defend yourself, that sucks. I am pretty sure it was my opinion on the thing that closed the whole thread down.
The problem is there is a lot of "group think" going on and also people are too sensitive and are always assuming that they are being attacked. I saw where that lady said she was waiting for you to chime in. I just didn't get that.
If she knew you were going to have a differing opinion, why the heck does she care? You know? So what if you have a different opinion.
Honestly, I am getting pretty sick of the "let's take offense to Beth" type attitude on the board. Do we all have to be in agreement all the time? No, of course not and that is the beauty of people that we are all different. Sigh.
At 8:49 PM, Burfica said…
Sounds like a bunch of people trying to have a "woe is me" pitty party. I hate that.
And I hate people who get on a high horse and preach, when what they are doing, is what they are preaching about saying is wrong. Dumb asshats!!!
At 9:23 PM, Deneen said…
Jeez, some investigating to find your Johari Window eh? It took me about 3 minutes to figure out WTF that was.
I know you're strong, they are the weak ones, attacking without provocation-fuck em girly!
At 9:55 PM, Lani said…
You go, girl. I think the funniest thing is the implication that you aren't allowed to have defenders, that it's somehow a bad thing that you have friends who object to someone sitting back and taking cheap potshots at you. You'd think sooner or later these people would just ... get a life of their own, perhaps, instead of worrying so much about what you might think or say or post?
At 12:08 AM, Amy said…
Hrmmm... Is it any wonder why I left that place, dear Beth? I left that shit back in high school.
At 9:29 AM, LinknKnits said…
I agree with aliassak... I haven't gone as far as leaving that board, but I refuse to participate in any of the "hot" topics where my opinion may differ from the group's. I don't want to get flamed or re-live high school! It just isn't worth it to me. Of course, that's just me, and you should be able to state your opinion whenever you want. :-) So keep strong.
At 10:48 AM, Karen said…
Beth, I think you give way too much of yourself when you respond to this negativity. It's like they won when you comment on the board. If they see noone is responding, then maybe they were just talking to themselves :)
At 11:24 AM, Hunny said…
Wow I must be out of the loop!! What the hell is going on?? It must be a crochetville thing!! I havent been hanging there much. TOO MUCH DRAMA FROM THE NEW PEOPLE!! Don't let the turkeys get you down!!
At 11:52 AM, StitchLuva and Yarn said…
I really don't know you or anyone else on the board, but I have a lot of respect for the way you speak what's on your mind. That's why I visit your blog every once in a while. None of that sugar coated bs which makes me want to puke. YOU GO GIRL!
At 1:02 PM, Joy said…
Anyone who hides behind an anonymous snark can just eff right the hell off. YOU are awesome Beth, and I have always said that I appreicate your no bs attitude. The hell with what anyone else thinks, especially those that don't even have the balls to come forward and show their faces.
At 2:00 PM, Rebecca said…
wtf? johari window? great, now i have to go find out what this is...
beth, girl, ya gotta let this stuff roll.... anonymous? and talking freaky shit about jahari windows... piss on 'em.
At 5:52 PM, EmberRose said…
I hate people that can't claim their ignorance/bitterness/jealousy. It's stupid.
At 10:34 PM, Pink said…
Well said, Elizabeth...not that you need any validation from me but I so admire your stance and wish I could be as forthright sometimes.
At 12:55 PM, Hilary said…
You tell 'em, girl! We all know you rock. I didn't do the johari window thing, but I've known you for awhile, and I think you know I admire the way you've got the guts to tell people just what you think. If people don't appreciate you for who you are, it's their loss.
At 12:06 AM, Shaylen said…
Im sorry you where treated like that,i try to stay out of ones i think will end up that way.I havent been on long and no i dont know you but ive allways liked that you speak what you feel,dont lose that its a gift that some of us lack.Chin up and dont let the few get you down.
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