so tonight i went to witness my niece who is 11 get baptized.. that part wasnt so bad.. the sermon after pissed me off.. i was ready to get up and walk out in the middle but felt it would cause a scene.. and i didnt want to embarrass my sister or my mother ..
my older sister felt the same way .. we conversed after the service and we were both offended.. i dont remember the members of the church being such closed minded judgmental people.. but then again the last time i really went i was 11.. i am not saying all people that go to church are this way .. all i am saying is this particular sermon hit all over me in all kinds of wrong ways..
first off.. the pastor blamed the acceptance of same sex marriages on the fact women were allowed to become pastors.. i am NOT kidding you .. his logic went as such.. since those churches went against the ancient teachings of the bible and let women be in charge.. its made a weak link in the "system" so to speak that men would have never allowed .. and these such churches sympathize with homosexuals and condone same sex marriages.. so its the woman's fault cause she was allowed to lead men.. an OBVIOUS role she shouldnt have .. he went on to say that women in the church should NOT be allowed to teach men nor are they allowed to to know more than men ..if they had questions about their teachings they are to wait til they get home and ask their husband to explain... WTF? please let me tell you HOW much this pissed me off.. and i guess the part that made me most upset.. is that .. this is the kind of thinking my niece just got baptized into upholding.. i hope she grows up thinking for herself and decide for herself.. that is all i can say about that .. i respect my sister for wanting to believe in something and trying to do the right thing for her kids.. and i wont go and try to tell my niece what to believe or not to believe ..but i believe that women should be at least treated equally ..
i am still reeling ............and please make a note.. that i usually dont even discuss religion or anything..and i am not trying to blast religion.. i am just saying i think its very wrong to teach your children that women are some how lesser than men .. its archaic this is just very upsetting to me ..
my older sister felt the same way .. we conversed after the service and we were both offended.. i dont remember the members of the church being such closed minded judgmental people.. but then again the last time i really went i was 11.. i am not saying all people that go to church are this way .. all i am saying is this particular sermon hit all over me in all kinds of wrong ways..
first off.. the pastor blamed the acceptance of same sex marriages on the fact women were allowed to become pastors.. i am NOT kidding you .. his logic went as such.. since those churches went against the ancient teachings of the bible and let women be in charge.. its made a weak link in the "system" so to speak that men would have never allowed .. and these such churches sympathize with homosexuals and condone same sex marriages.. so its the woman's fault cause she was allowed to lead men.. an OBVIOUS role she shouldnt have .. he went on to say that women in the church should NOT be allowed to teach men nor are they allowed to to know more than men ..if they had questions about their teachings they are to wait til they get home and ask their husband to explain... WTF? please let me tell you HOW much this pissed me off.. and i guess the part that made me most upset.. is that .. this is the kind of thinking my niece just got baptized into upholding.. i hope she grows up thinking for herself and decide for herself.. that is all i can say about that .. i respect my sister for wanting to believe in something and trying to do the right thing for her kids.. and i wont go and try to tell my niece what to believe or not to believe ..but i believe that women should be at least treated equally ..
i am still reeling ............and please make a note.. that i usually dont even discuss religion or anything..and i am not trying to blast religion.. i am just saying i think its very wrong to teach your children that women are some how lesser than men .. its archaic this is just very upsetting to me ..
8 Comments:
At 7:13 AM,
Pyo said…
I feel you on that matter.
You were right not to cause a scene, but this man was wrong saying such things. There's no link between one person's ability to teach or lead and the place where his/her reproductive organs lay.
Too bad too many people didn't catch that.
At 12:40 PM,
Burfica said…
I went to a friends church with then while out of town, and it had a pretty similiar sermon. I did walk out, and waited in the car. They proceded to tell me it was just that preacher cuz the church wasn't that way.
So...fast forward. I was a bridesmaid in her wedding, and the pastor (different guy) started making a speach about how the husband was like Jesus, and he ruled his house and his wife, and she better submit to him, or be sinning against Jesus. I made some disgusted noise in my throat, which I wasn't aware was that loud, but everyone got quiet and looked at me. hehehehehe
At 9:47 PM,
Shar said…
That is just so cavemanish! I would have had a hard time staying too.
At 2:11 PM,
Unknown said…
"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church." (I Corinthians 14:34-35)
Yes - this is in the Bible - I don't agree with it though...
At 2:19 PM,
Unknown said…
Ephesians 5:22-24
22Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
(just thought you like this part too....lol...not)
At 4:35 PM,
hookd1989 said…
Wow...I don't know that I could have stayed. And my MIL left her granddaughter's christening for a lesser thing.
If women are "less" than men...why are we carrying and giving birth to their children...'cause they can't handle the truth (or the pain.) It's a lot of responsibility for someone who is unworthy, don't ya think?
The Bible, as it stands today, is so convoluted, over-translated, and butchered that it is probably 30-40% of the original...I could go on...but I've said enough.
At 4:13 PM,
Kare said…
You know, I can't stand how religions only use what they want to use from the bible.
When I was looking for a church in a new town, I called around looking for a church with youth groups for my kids. The lady on the phone asked me if my husband would be attending,too. I told her that I was on my own with the children. She then told me that I would probably not be comfortable at that church... unreal!! I do not go to church now. Nor do my children.(not only because of that comment, but because of everything. As you wrote.)
Whatever.
At 2:52 PM,
Melissa H. said…
Beth, I was raised in a church that follows the Bible "to the letter" and it drove me absolutely crazy. In fact, the kind of thinking that the pastor preached about is what drove me out of that church!
I've upset my parents by changing denominations, but I'm comfortable where I am now and can even lead the song service and read from the Bible when I wish. I hope your sister teaches your niece to think for herself on these kinds of matters so that she may make her own solid decision when she is older.
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